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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:45 am    Post subject: Terrorists planned to blow up 10 planes Reply with quote

Another example of how barbaric these wackos are...

LONDON - British police said Thursday they thwarted a terrorist plot, possibly just days away, to blow up U.S.-bound jetliners over the Atlantic and kill thousands. Chilling accounts leaked by investigators described a plan on the scale of 9/11 that would use liquid explosives concealed as sports drink bottles and common electronic devices to bring down as many as 10 planes in a nearly simultaneous strike.

The bombs were to be assembled on the aircraft apparently using a peroxide-based solution detonated by such devices as a disposable camera or a music player, two American law enforcement officials told The Associated Press. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because Britain asked that no information be released.

A federal law enforcement official in Washington said that at least one martyrdom tape was found during ongoing raids across England on Thursday. Such a tape, as well as the scheme to strike a range of targets at roughly the same time, is an earmark of al-Qaida.

British authorities arrested 24 people based partly on intelligence from Pakistan, where authorities detained up to three others several days earlier. More arrests were expected, the official said. The suspects were believed to be mainly British Muslims, at least some of Pakistani ancestry, and the official said some had gone to Pakistan recently.

A senior U.S. counterterrorism official said the suspects, whose ages ranged from 17 to the mid-30s, were looking to sneak at least some chemicals on the planes in sports drink bottles. Teams of at least two or three men were assigned to each flight, the schedules for which they had researched on the Internet, the official said.

American investigators praised Britain for preventing a catastrophe. "If this plot had actually occurred, the world would have stood still," Mark Mershon, assistant director of the FBI, told the AP in New York.

Terror threat levels were raised to some of their highest levels and hundreds of flights were canceled worldwide. Passengers stood in line for hours and airport trash bins bulged with everything from mouthwash and shaving cream to maple syrup and fine wine. Governors in at least three U.S. states — California, New York and Massachusetts — ordered National Guard troops to help provide security.

"We want to make sure that there are no remaining threats out there, and we also want to take steps to prevent any would-be copycats who may be inspired to similar conduct," said U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff.

Experts said the nature of the plot could herald a new age of terrorism where attackers have access to explosives that are easy to carry and conceal. Emergency security measures quickly implemented on Thursday provided a stark vision of the possible future of air travel.

Mothers tasted baby food in front of airport security guards to prove it contained no liquid explosives. Liquids and gels were banned from flights. Travelers repacked their luggage in airports, stowing all but the most necessary items in the hold.

Although plots to blow up airliners using liquid explosives are not new — such an attempt was foiled more than a decade ago — the U.S. government has been slow to upgrade its security equipment at airport checkpoints to detect explosives on passengers.

U.S. authorities did not say how long the security measures would last. "We are taking the step of preventing liquids from getting into the cabin to give us time to make adjustments," Chertoff said.

The raids in Britain on Thursday followed a monthslong investigation, but U.S. intelligence officials said authorities moved quickly after learning the plotters hoped to stage a practice run within two days, with the actual attack expected just days after that.

The test run was designed to see whether the plotters would be able to smuggle the needed materials aboard the planes, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Targeted were United, American and Continental Airlines flights from Britain to major U.S. destinations, which counterterrorism officials said probably included New York, Los Angeles and Washington, D.C. Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said the individuals plotted to detonate liquid explosive devices on as many as 10 aircraft.

"This nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation," President Bush declared.

The plane bombings could have come just ahead of the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks carried out by al-Qaida. The terror group's leader Osama bin Laden and his No. 2, Ayman al-Zawahri, are believed hiding along the Pakistan- Afghanistan border and have repeatedly issued tapes threatening new attacks.

"In terms of scale, it was probably designed to be ... a new Sept. 11," said Jean-Charles Brisard, a French private investigator who works with lawyers of many Sept. 11 victims. "It involved the same tools, the same transportation tools and devices."

The close call also shifted attention once more to Britain's Islamic community just over a year after the London transit attacks. Three Britons of Pakistani descent and a Jamaican convert to Islam carried out those deadly bombings with a peroxide-based explosive that trained operatives can make using ordinary ingredients such as hair bleach.

In Pakistan, an intelligence official said the arrest of an Islamic militant near that border several weeks ago played a role in "unearthing the plot." The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said some suspects arrested in Britain were linked to al-Qaida. However, authorities stopped short of accusing al-Qaida directly for the plot.

A senior Pakistani government official, also speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment on the matter, said "two or three local people" suspected in the plot were arrested a few days ago in the Pakistani cities of Lahore and Karachi.

French Interior Minister Nicholas Sarkozy said the group "appears to be of Pakistani origin," but did not give a precise source for the information. Britain's Home Office refused comment.

A British police official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation, said the suspects were "homegrown," though it was not immediately clear if all were British citizens. He said authorities were working with Britain's large South Asian community.

Tariq Azim Khan, the Pakistani minister of state for information, said "these people were born and brought up in the United Kingdom. Some of them may have parents who were immigrants from Pakistan."

Raids were carried out at homes in London, the nearby town of High Wycombe and in Birmingham, in central England. Searches continued throughout the day, and police cordoned off streets in several locations. Police also combed a wooded area in High Wycombe.

Hamza Ghafoor, 20, who lives across the street from one of the homes raided in Walthamstow, northeast of London, said police circled the block in vans Wednesday and that they generally swoop into the neighborhood to question "anyone with a beard."

"Ibrahim didn't do nothing wrong," Ghafoor said, referring to a suspect. "He played football. He goes to the mosque. He's a nice guy."

The British government raised its threat assessment to its highest level — critical — which warns that a terrorist attack could be imminent. The U.S. government, following suit, raised its threat assessment to red alert, also its highest level, for commercial flights from Britain to the United States.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very scary stuff. I learned about the news by flipping on one of the "morning shows" this morning and having a special report airing with these guys explaining what happened. Because of this, you are no longer allowed to bring liquids onto the plane (mp3 players/ipods could also be banned). It's just a real scary thought that 9-11 could have happened all over again today. 10 planes...wow....
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, lots of airports had delayed trips to London after this incident. It was in the local papers today
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's IT!!! I'm never flying on a plane again, I'll just wait till I can drive if I can't bring a drink on a plane.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The evil that can be plotted in the name of Allah against innocent persons long ago ceased to surprise me. But it still continues to sicken me. Such schemes improve the world for no one, and only make it more intolerable for everybody else.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hihey9989 wrote:
That's IT!!! I'm never flying on a plane again, I'll just wait till I can drive if I can't bring a drink on a plane.


They will still serve drinks (they'll probubly have thier own water bottles/soda cans) on a plane, you just can't bring a drink on to it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Sorry, I worded that wrong.

I meant to say I'm never flying a plane again because a terrorist might've planted a bomb on it. Still, the drink thing sucks anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been on the news non-stop here. You're no longer allowed hand luggage on flights - just a clear bag with a small wallet, passport, tickets and medicine.
All the transatlantic flights go over our town before heading west/south. I don't really know why though. Triste
I'm also not so sure they'd do every one over the atlantic. Why wouldn't they wait until they were on land, like they did at Lockerbie?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is just one reason why we should all use trains.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um... terrorists attack trains too - London and India for example.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not quite as effectivly.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bearbear wrote:
It's been on the news non-stop here. You're no longer allowed hand luggage on flights - just a clear bag with a small wallet, passport, tickets and medicine.

WOW! I didn't know they were being that strict! How are you soposed to go on vacation? Gosh, that's tough. I wonder how long that enforcement will last.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The news said it could be permanent, but now they said they have new security procedures in development. I think it will stay the same for a little while though.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jarjar23 wrote:
bearbear wrote:
It's been on the news non-stop here. You're no longer allowed hand luggage on flights - just a clear bag with a small wallet, passport, tickets and medicine.

WOW! I didn't know they were being that strict! How are you soposed to go on vacation? Gosh, that's tough. I wonder how long that enforcement will last.


The worse thing is for those who were already booked and either had there flights cancelled or were still able to fly, but then had to rearrange everything. I said to my parents that I was glad i weren't flying over the next couple of days or so, due to all the disruptions.

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...I'm also not so sure they'd do every one over the atlantic. Why wouldn't they wait until they were on land, like they did at Lockerbie?


And in addition to that I don't think just stopping people taking hand luggage is going to stop it because they could still put the stuff in with the luggage can they not without anyone knowing.

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The evil that can be plotted in the name of Allah against innocent persons long ago ceased to surprise me. But it still continues to sicken me. Such schemes improve the world for no one, and only make it more intolerable for everybody else.


And what saddens and annoys me are those who become traitors even if they have been well looked after and taken care of. I wont go into anymore though. I really don't want to start going on a rant.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh great, my sister was planning to go to San Diego as part of a birthday gift from her bf Confused I have to wonder if they'll still go after this when they hear about it. Geez. Feu

I really hate these fanatics that think it's agreat priviledge to kill innocent people in their" process to enlightenment". If they had read their texts correctly, they'd know that "killing others in cold blood" will condemn them to hell for all eternity. I don't know where they got their ideals from; I do know that the Islamic religion doesn't really support that kind of ideal. Only the militant fanatic seem to. Sad, so sad Triste

I am glad that they managed to catch that before the terrorists could've pulled it off. It would've been very tragic if they had managed it, and with 9/11 just around the corner... Choqué

I just wish people like that would get off their "high horse" and try to join the rest of society in a peaceful manner instead of trying to ruin it for everyone else. If they think we're selfish, they haven't looked at themselves in the mirror lately.
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